{"id":182,"date":"2022-09-04T07:30:07","date_gmt":"2022-09-04T07:30:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/nilamox.com\/sevcom\/?page_id=182"},"modified":"2022-09-04T07:30:07","modified_gmt":"2022-09-04T07:30:07","slug":"slug-magazine-1980","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/nilamox.com\/sevcom\/slug-magazine-1980\/","title":{"rendered":"Slug Magazine 1980"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Edited and HTMLized by Dave Watson\/SHLF, 1999 10 03-04 &amp; 12.<br><em>Breaks in the text, as indicated by ellipses (&#8230;), are as they originally appeared in the Bigot Booklet. No text has been deleted, but a few (explanations) have been added.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Richard Fielding<\/strong>: We never were a real band, you know&#8230;<br><strong>John (of Slug)<\/strong>: What&#8217;s a <em>real<\/em> band?<br><strong>Tom Ellard<\/strong>: We never EVER played together&#8230;well, we did it twice, two or three times, we played together.<br><strong>Slug<\/strong>: So the tracks on the album <em>(Ear Bitten)<\/em>, most of those are totally yours and some of them are totally Richard&#8217;s?<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: Yeah, he did the first one, that was an old Mr &amp; Mrs No Smoking Sign&#8230;I was in England. I did the second one. The third we did together.<br><em>(Lists the tracks.)<\/em><br><strong>TE<\/strong>: So I did the nasty ones, and he did the nice ones, and it was all a big&#8230;wank, wank&#8230;<br><strong>Slug<\/strong>: So, really, the Severed Heads aren&#8217;t a normal band<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: That&#8217;s what we&#8217;re trying to do, I think we&#8217;re <em>very<\/em> normal, extremely normal&#8230;the album is so UNTYPICAL of what we&#8217;re doing it&#8217;s absolute rubbish&#8230;<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: I don&#8217;t think <em>anything&#8217;s<\/em> typical, that&#8217;s the point. The first cassette we started on was so different to the other ones. Now we sound more like, I don&#8217;t know&#8230;we don&#8217;t sound like Throbbing Gristle anymore.<br><strong>Slug<\/strong>: The album doesn&#8217;t sound like Throbbing Gristle&#8230;<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: Sounds sort of like an organic Throbbing Gristle&#8230;homegrown&#8230;sort of <em>knitted<\/em> Throbbing Gristle.<br>(&#8230;)<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: I don&#8217;t think Orchid Spangiafora is particularly&#8230;<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: But he sort of got us onto voices.<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: Got <em>you<\/em> onto&#8230;<br><strong>Slug<\/strong>: Who is this?<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: Robert Carey of New York City.<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: Orchid Spangiafora. It&#8217;s an album <em>(Flee Past&#8217;s Ape Elf)<\/em> with sort of silly noises cut up, and, er, people going, &#8220;Can&#8217;t eat a yo-yo! Can&#8217;t&#8211;eat&#8211;a&#8211;yo-yo!&#8221; and voices going backwards and forwards and it&#8217;s quite good&#8230;you liked it a lot, but I didn&#8217;t.<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: You did!<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: Yeah, I liked it, but I don&#8217;t think&#8230;<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: It&#8217;s great! Don&#8217;t deny the fact that you think it&#8217;s great!<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: It&#8217;s all right&#8230;<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: Oh, come on! It&#8217;s wonderful!<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: &#8230;it&#8217;s good&#8230;<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: Well, it got me onto editing voices, talking&#8230;<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: I think it would be better if he did more musical editing&#8230;<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: We&#8217;ve done more music. He does mainly talk, daytime television, but we&#8217;ve added a lot of music.<br><strong>Slug<\/strong>: Music taken from other sources and cut in?<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: Yeah, Joy Division&#8230;<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: Talking Heads.<br>(&#8230;)<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: I like the Nobodies stuff.<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: Yeah, the Nobodies got killed.<br><strong>Slug<\/strong>: Who are the Nobodies?<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: Hmmmmmmm&#8230;ah&#8230;<em>(feet twitching)<\/em>.<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: Um&#8230;<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: Nobody in particular, just machinery, the machinery plays itself, you know. People would come into the room and they&#8217;d start the Nobodies going and then they&#8217;d leave and the Nobodies would play.<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: I just produced them you know.<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: Yeah, they got killed in a fire <em>(at Richard&#8217;s house)<\/em>. Let&#8217;s bring creativity into it: The Nobodies used to sit on the floor going &#8217;round and &#8217;round and &#8217;round. The tapes used to get chewed, right? So they played different things all the time. They were very creative.<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: They used to have this woman saying, &#8220;I don&#8217;t care, I don&#8217;t care,&#8221; and then it used to go RROOOOAAARRLL! and it&#8217;d say something completely different.<br>(&#8230;)<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: One day I just ordered a lot of stuff from Rough Trade&#8211;fanzines, cassettes and that&#8211;and I got this fanzine, Stabmental, which had this list of other people working with cassettes. And then I wrote to Deleted Records and they sent me Cassette Survival, and all these <em>thousands<\/em> of people in England&#8230;<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: Cassette Survival is a catalogue&#8230;it&#8217;s got people from Italy, and all over England. It also includes the major people like NB Records&#8230;<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: And Industrial.<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: Actually, we should do the same for Australia. Cassette Survival in Australia&#8230;there aren&#8217;t very many&#8230;<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: Not in Australia, but it&#8217;s surprising how many there are in England.<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: Six foolscap pages.<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: Every block has a kid that&#8217;s doing it.<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: Which is good. I&#8217;d like to see it happening in Australia. I couldn&#8217;t find anybody for a long time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>(Talk about Australian cassette makers.)<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TE<\/strong>: We&#8217;re still doing something that people have done before. We&#8217;ve really got to think up something that nobody else has done before.<br><strong>Slug<\/strong>: Is originality all that important?<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: No.<br><strong>Slug<\/strong>: I mean, everything you do&#8230;people have made tapes before, people have made records before&#8230;<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: I&#8217;m not so sure&#8230;we could bring back the Clowns. The Clowns was a band before the Severed Heads. The Severed Heads was brought about when we sent the first tape to Peter Doyle. We had to have a name, so we called it the Severed Heads.<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: I objected to the name we had at the time.<br><strong>Slug<\/strong>: Mr &amp; Mrs No Smoking Sign?<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: No, it was Mr &amp; Mrs Tapelooploop. Don&#8217;t write any of this down.<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: Yeah, write it down.<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: No, no, no&#8230;it makes us sound totally STUPID.<br><em>(No break here, but the next quote is Richard&#8217;s. Moving right along&#8230;)<\/em><br><br><strong>RF<\/strong>: The Severed Heads aren&#8217;t important. They&#8217;re the least important band on Terse <em>(the band&#8217;s cassette label at the time)<\/em>.<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: But there aren&#8217;t any bands on Terse. There&#8217;s about 12 people who&#8230;<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: Don&#8217;t print that!<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: The Wet Taxis are real enough.<br><strong>Slug<\/strong>: What about the band who&#8230;<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: Well, that&#8217;s 2 Man Submarine, who are really Japanese Gene Kelly in disguise, who are really a little bit of Agent Orange <em>(presumably not the American punk band)<\/em>, a little bit of&#8230;<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: Rhino Rhino.<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: Yes, and a little bit of Mindless Delta Children, who are Pissy Relay Switches in disguise.<br><strong>Slug<\/strong>: It seems that most of the bands have two or three people in them.<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: Don&#8217;t give it away!<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: It&#8217;s just that you don&#8217;t need many people.<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: We got sick of doing the same sort of music.<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: That&#8217;s right. Take a guy out of Agent Orange, Matthew. He likes to work with Agent Orange. He also likes to work with other people. He does tapeloops. He can&#8217;t do that sort of thing with Agent Orange. He has to do it seperately.<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: It&#8217;s just that a normal band situation doesn&#8217;t give you enough scope.<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: I think Mysterious Kitchens is an album by the same people, not a compilation.<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: We try to fool people, but it doesn&#8217;t fool them at all.<br><strong>Slug<\/strong>: Would these bands have existed without Terse?<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: No, not really. Terse is a bandwagon for people to jump on&#8230;<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: If it didn&#8217;t exist, I don&#8217;t think these people would be motivated enough to record.<br>(&#8230;)<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: The The <em>(not Matt Johnson&#8217;s band)<\/em> was the first band on Terse. That stuff was a lot better than the Severed Heads because it was a pickup on a clipboard with rubber bands, and egg slicers and dishwashers&#8230;it was a lot more innovative than playing a synthesizer or something like that.<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: That&#8217;s right. Then we got into NORMAL instrumentation.<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: He bought a drum machine, he started this whole electronic&#8230;<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: We could have been good. We could have just continued with electric clipboard and egg slicers&#8230;<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: The first thing I did was in 1977, and that was with tapeloops. I showed him the tapeloops. He was absolutely amazed. A friend of his had got a synthesizer. It was the first time I had ever met him as I went &#8217;round there, and they were both playing with this synthesizer, and it was the best thing I&#8217;d seen in years. So I get a tape recorder out and make a tapeloop, and they came to have a look at it, and I went to have a look at the synthesizer. Ever since, he&#8217;s been into tapeloops and I&#8217;ve been into synthesizers.<br><br><strong>Slug<\/strong>: What drugs are best suited for your music?<br><strong>RF<\/strong>: TV.<br><strong>TE<\/strong>: It&#8217;s a good drug.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Edited and HTMLized by Dave Watson\/SHLF, 1999 10 03-04 &amp; 12.Breaks in the text, as indicated by ellipses (&#8230;), are as they originally appeared in the Bigot Booklet. No text has been deleted, but a few (explanations) have been added. 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