{"id":227,"date":"2021-08-13T03:19:17","date_gmt":"2021-08-13T03:19:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/nilamox.com\/mancave21\/?page_id=227"},"modified":"2025-04-16T11:08:17","modified_gmt":"2025-04-16T11:08:17","slug":"roland-jp8080","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/nilamox.com\/mancave21\/roland-jp8080\/","title":{"rendered":"Roland JP8080 \ud83e\uddfb\ud83e\uddfb\ud83e\uddfb\ud83e\uddfb"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Supersaw my order<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

If there is a system by which JPs, JDs, JVs and JXs can be sorted I\u2019d love to know the secret. Maybe it\u2019s the same way they got the Roland name by just picking something masculine out of a phone book. They had a planet thing going on for a while, then I guess Juno sounded like a \u2018little Jupiter\u2019 and after that Roland just shrugged and made shit up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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As a JP it is apparently a Jupiter, and an expansion for the JP8000 it is a ‘Super Jupiter’. Jupiters are the big cheese, the ones that get sliced into lesser cheeses. So a mystery is why the 8000 series didn\u2019t go further: no smaller portions sprang forth. It would be 12 years to the next Jupiter, and most everything between is Sword & Sandals<\/a>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

The next knobby box is the SH-32<\/a> – relatively low cost with a slightly educational bent. After that some aspects of the JP8080 synthesis appears in the V-Synth<\/a>, although it’s not declared as such. You can now find some elements of it in Zenology.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sensible review here.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

The obvious highlight of this box is knobs. Roland did knobs six or seven years before on the JD800 (which looks so early nineties that even the early nineties is embarrassed). That machine was definitely Sword and Sandals; 4 tones through two filters, lots of looping samples yada yada. Like a JD990 with a controller gaffered on top, which is not bad at all, but nowhere near analogue-days-of-yore.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The JP8080 is more secretive about how it make noises, although this is where the term \u2018analogue modelling\u2019 was first marketed. There\u2019s two oscillators and one filter per patch, and you can combine two patches into a performance for the suspiciously familiar four tones. A couple of points make me think it\u2019s not just a S&S in disguise. Although the oscillators are based on the usual analogue waveforms they can each be \u2018bent\u2019 by two control knobs, for example the square is pulse width modulated, and the triangle phase distorted. Here is the first supersaw that defined horrible late 90\u2019s techno. The \u2018feedback wave\u2019 is a comb filter of some sort, probably made by brute force, playing 8 copies of the wave with delays, Using it forces the patch to be mono.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The two oscillators can be synched and ring modulated, and Osc2 has wide range like the one on the Jupiter 8. The filter is a Roland filter, ain\u2019t nothing much going on there. But again it\u2019s not the filter of the S&S family, which has peaking (a bump) instead of bandpass (a dip).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I was troubled by how familiar this layout was under my fingers until I realised that the Korg MS2000<\/a> ripped it off shamelessly. Flattery from the opposition.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For the first few sessions I thought this a decent box, very Roland eaten-all-the-pies, but not anything that would set the world on fire. It\u2019s warm and tactile and 80\u2019s but seemed trapped in being a tribute to the Jupiter 8. But the more I’ve played with it over the years the more respect it’s gained. When compared to the MKS-80 (apparently a great analogue benchmark to be met) I find the 8080 is well capable of doing all that and more. It’s got a lot to do with the EQ knobs, just grab those knobs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And here is some of the more. Get an arpeggio going or a repeating phrase from the bank of Realtime Phrase Sequencer memories<\/strong>. Now, record the motions of knobs into the motion control. You can get up to 8 bars of motion looping and keep on overlaying tweaks and warbles by hand until you\u2019ve got something truly chaotic, unexpected and unashamedly bleepy. With practice you can build impressive undulating textures that sound quite modular. The middle range filter starts to make sense as it flails around the map trying to reach every burp and shriek you\u2019ve knobbed in. In this role the JP8080 really shines.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The RADIAS<\/a> has similar modulation tracks but is limited by emulating the SQ10 \u2013 three channels of 16 steps each give much less scope for wibbling than 8 full bars.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

My unit\u2019s had a hard life. The headphone outlet is busted, and others I\u2019ve seen for sale have the same defect. One button is a little dodgy. All the controls work fine although they feel floppy to my muscle memory, which remembers stiffness in my old analogues. The V-Synth incorporates many aspects of the JP \u2013 that might satisfy, but I really do think that knobs are the excuse for not just using a VST, so I am hanging on to my knobs. The AIRA System-1<\/a> is aiming for the same territory and although confined to four voices (the JP has ten), can create some of the same warmth. The AIRA System-8<\/a> is the clear follow up.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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